From: kedwar@ward.che.utexas.edu (Keith Edwards) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: C&R License Comes Through! Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:12:03 -0500 Oh Rapture Oh Bliss! My Curios and Relics license arrived yesterday in the mail. The articles posted a couple of months ago in rec.guns on the merits of the license piqued my interest and prompted me to apply for the license. For those of you who have likewise applied and are still waiting you'll be encouraged to know I received mine in 35 days. I called ATF licensing center in Atlanta October 26 and requested the form ATF F7CR (5310.16), the application for the C&R collectors license. The ATF people in Atlanta with whom I talked were very polite and helpful, and promptly mailed the paperwork which arrived October 28. I sent the completed application with a $30 check back to Atlanta and waited. Unfortunately, as noted by others in rec.guns community, there are two additional forms that must be filled out because of the recently passed Crime Bill. And ATF forgot to send them with my application, so be sure to request these to avoid delays! I received these forms in the mail November 11 and mailed them out November 14. So there was probably an additional delay of 5 or 6 days in obtaining the license. The first form, ATF F5300.36, is provided to notify your local law enforcement officer of your intent to get an FFL. The 'intent' of the form is to more thoroughly screen the applicant, but the form requires no action on the part of the LEO. So unless you live in a virulently anti-gun community where one or more of the LEO's is out to get FFLs, you probably don't have too much to worry about. Also note that LEO can be Police Chief, Sheriff, or an equivalent officer, so you get to pick your own, hopefully the most gun-friendly of the bunch. The second form, ATF F5300.37, is a certification of compliance with state and local law. For a C&R license, this form requires the applicant to certify that the F5300.36 has been sent to a chief LEO, and that the applicant is not subject to a court order restraining him/her from harrassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such partner. A few days after mailing the F5300.36 and 37 forms, I called ATF in Atlanta to confirm their receipt of them. I talked with a pleasant woman named Billy Ann Barnett, who is in charge of the licensing paperwork. I was lucky to call, because my paperwork was buried somewhere on her desk, and it took a few minutes to locate the application and accompanying ATF forms. Had I not called, I may still be waiting for the license! Anyway, she indicated the forms were in order and the background check had already been run, so I was good to go and could expect the license in a couple of weeks. And two weeks later, my license arrived in the mail. The license was accompanied by the ATF Curios and Relics List, the official but not all-inclusive list of firearms that may be mail-ordered across state lines. Interestingly, it lists ammo that was classified as C&R prior to 1986, plus some NFA weapons that also qualify as C&R like MP40's, M3 grease guns, Browning 1919A4's, and a host of others. Having the license allows the holder to receive or ship the listed NFA weapons in intrastate or interstate commerce. However, all NFA rules apply, including the transfer tax, background check, etc. Thanks Robert Plamondon for your excellent post in October on the joys of possessing a C&R license! I am really looking forward to taking advantage of the deals in Shotgun News on the Enfields, Mausers, Carcanos, etc. Now the agonizing question- Which C&R should I buy first?! Keith